Last week, I met with my conversation partner for the first time. She’s a student in TCU’s Intensive English Program. She’s also a mother of two beautiful boys. Her name is Milla, and she’s here to learn.
Milla moved to the United States from
Venezuela, where she was a lawyer and a businesswoman. She and her husband decided to move because
they wanted their boys to have a better life, she said. The socialist government there was becoming
too oppressive, so they decided to leave.
When they came here, Milla said, she
couldn’t speak a word of English. She
knew if she was going to build a better life for her family, she needed to
learn the language. That brought her to
the Intensive English Program at TCU.
When Milla told me she’d only begun
speaking English in August, I was shocked.
She sounded as though she’d been speaking the language for several
years, and had only come to TCU to improve upon her grammar skills (which, by
the way, are extremely good. I’ve never
heard any of my peers who grew up speaking English casually discuss auxiliary
verbs.).
As we talked, it quickly became apparent
that Milla is an intelligent and engaged woman who is eager to learn about a
new culture. As I asked her more about
the Venezuelan government, she began to discuss what true socialism is. She told me about the government controlling
everything—especially citizens’ money.
She has to put in an application to the government requesting a
withdrawal from her own bank account to pay for education and living expenses
here. It doesn’t matter what she
requests, the government will decide how much she needs. They do this for all citizens, without
regarding the fact that some have families to take care of. Milla will get the same amount to care for
her family of four as a single person will.
She talked about American citizens calling
our government socialist, saying that nobody here truly understands what
socialism is. When she began to ask me
about my own political beliefs, she quickly stopped and corrected herself. Apparently her English teacher told her it
was impolite to openly discuss politics and religion in America.
I
found this to be an extremely curious statement. I grew up in the Bible Belt. My hometown newspaper still has the Bible
verse of the week on the front page of our weekly paper. It was always okay to talk about religion in
passing or in depth in my hometown. In
addition, I’m from a conservative Texas small town, where everyone argues about
politics all the time. What’s more, I’m
on the debate team at TCU, where we regularly discuss politics both leisurely
and in debate rounds. I can see where
Milla’s professor was coming from in telling her that these subjects could
bring about sticky situations with extremists or people who don’t want to
discuss them, but I think it was incorrect to tell her that it’s always a bad
idea to bring them up.
I told Milla that it isn’t always impolite
to talk about religion and politics, that they were probably just subjects she
should reserve for people who she knew a little better—not complete strangers. But learning this sparked my curiosity. Milla is obviously perceptive and very aware
of her words and actions. She had
probably picked up on some more cultural differences that she has to be aware
of. So I decided to ask her about any more
culture shocks she had in coming to the United States.
She told me more about cultural
differences such as warmth and displays of affection. It’s pretty commonly known that Hispanic
cultures are very warm. People often
greet each other with a kiss on each cheek and a hug, whereas the social norm
in the U.S. is to shake someone’s hand.
What I found more interesting to learn is that the American culture is
even colder in comparison than I had thought it to be. Milla told me that in Hispanic cultures, if
you walk into a restaurant and see a friend, it’s common to sit down and join
him or her. It would be rude not to,
seeing as though you both will be eating in the same place anyway. Everyone likes their own space and table in
America. Similarly, if you see someone
you know walking around town in Venezuela, it’s custom to stop and ask them how
they’re doing, how their family is, etc.
Milla found it odd that people only say hello in passing here.
It felt strange for Milla to integrate
herself into the American culture, she told me.
Not only does she have to learn the main differences discussed above
between her culture and Americans’, she must also become adjusted to all the
differences in Americans in general. She’s not used to seeing so many races and
cultural identifiers mixed into one place.
What’s more, she’s not used to all the division between cultures. For example, she explained to me that she
understands the history of the civil rights movement and why racial issues were
a sore issue in America’s past, but she doesn’t understand why people are still
holding grudges.
Talking to Milla helped me see society
through different eyes. Her culture
shocks raised some serious questions. Why
aren’t Americans past racial divisions yet?
Sure, we’ve progressed, but racial issues are still being brought
up. What’s more, why is the American
culture so reserved and cold? Could it
be because we’re all going through a continuous culture shock in trying to
integrate everyone into this society?
Perhaps. Maybe we don’t want to
upset people and don’t know what’s acceptable to different persons, so we keep
ourselves at a distance. It’s an
interesting thought to ponder.
Hi Kelsey, Thanks for the great post about your first meeting with Milla. Your conversation seems to have gone quite well, and Milla sounds like a really interesting person. I am glad that your conversation brought questions and issues to ponder, especially concerning cultural differences.
ReplyDeleteI will look forward to reading more. dw
Hi Kelsey,
ReplyDeleteI can definitely relate to much of the conversation you have had with your conversation partner, as my conversation partner is from Venezuela as well. Right away, I was extremely surprised by my conversation partner's fluency in English. It seems as though both of our conversation partner's are quite eager to learn and make a better life for themselves. I also found it interesting that my conversation partner made a comment about the difference in the people from America and Venezuela as well. Lastly, I enjoyed the paragraph about the differences between the two cultures as far as touch and personal space are concerned. I am currently taking a non-verbal communication course for my major and we recently talked about how the culture in America has this unspoken, but widespread knowledge that Americans need their space. In passing, if you so much as nudge someone the tiniest bit, the automatic response is "oh, excuse me, I'm so sorry" (as if the person is going to be extremely angry). I wonder why this is? I really enjoyed reading this blog post and hopefully your conversations with Milla continue to go well.
Kimberly.